In which John offers a summary of the health care reform bill that just passed the US senate, discussing the insurance exchange market, pre-existing condition clauses, medicare taxes, and other fine points of the still-under-debate bill. Here’s a excellent explanation of how the insurance exchanges will look like: bit.ly Thanks to Alan Lastufka ( youtube.com ) for the Ben Nelson asshat photo. About abortion: The senate plot works like this: Policies covering abortion would be available in the exchange market (at least in some states), but those plans would have to collect two separate premiums–one covering everything other than abortion, and one for abortion coverage. The subsidy (available to all families making less than about $88000 a year depending on number of kids) would only apply to the non-abortion policy. If this seems like a hilariously stupid distinction, that’s because it is. Ultimately, it of course doesn’t matter which policy the subsidy goes toward. But then again, every federal program “supports” abortion in some way. For instance, without federally funded highways, it would be impossible for most women to get abortions. All government spending indirectly goes to support all activity in America, but it’s ridiculous to say that, for instance, food stamps encourage meth use, even though sometimes people trade meth for food they bought with food stamps. It’s equally disingenuous to say that this bill will allow federal funding of abortions, unless you’re willing to argue that all government spending funds abortion.
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There is a lot that your not saying, there are over 2000 pages to achieve insurance regulations and provide for the have nots. What else is there? how about federal access to personalbank accounts, RFID and committees to choose your care level and and and… tell all of it not only the things people want and like BUT also let’s talk about the stuff we DON’T want
Universal health care in the US is unconstitutional; that is why the state AGs are going after it. Dem AGs are ignoring out of politics. The “Cornhusker Kickback” is unconstitutional because it unfairly benefits one state over all others plus “carve outs” for other states. This would be the first “ins.” to be required by the feds and if it is enacted and you don’t pay: YOU GO TO PRISON.
Oh yeah, on a separate issue, medicare is bankrupt; adding a NEW entitlement program is foolish.
I really have no thought what point it is you’re making so, that politics hasn’t always been like this? That federal healthcare is socialist?
I don’t appreciate your attitude though, you deliver a backhanded
insult and ignore my response to it. I would still like to know how I’m ignoring history, apparently willfully according to you. We all need more education. I get that it’s supposed to make me look foolish, but I really can’t disagree. There really is no need to be so abrasive though.
@kh739
You know, I tried to be mannerly. Just because we have differing views doesn’t mean we can’t be civil. Re-read your message? and tell me you aren’t missing commas. Complex sentences usually have punctuation. As for not knowing what MA stands for, I’m not American. It could really stand for anything. I notice you still didn’t bother to clarify, it’s not my job to google your poor communication.
There’s nothing incorrect with my grammar. I know, I know. People often mistake complex sentence structure for run on sentences; you just need more education.
MA? You are kidding, right?
I don’t need to know democrat governors intimately to know their political motivations for not calling for an investigation into political issues that hurt their own parties, or as you said: “Trust politicians to be politicians. It’s regrettable, but that’s the way the world is. “
i used to be against healthcare rationing but people do just make stupid health choices over and over and over and dont care. keep smokin keep drinkin beer keep eating pounds of dead animal a day but u might get rationed out where u wont receive an operation based on ur choices and age ect..
@kh739
I’m finding your message hard to know but I’ll try and answer as best I can. If you do choose to answer could you please cut down the abbreviations and run on sentences with no punctuation? I’m not making fun, I just can’t know some of your message. How many democratic governors do you know intimately? You’re making a huge assumption based on their political alignment there. I just don’t see your basis for that? With regard to ignoring history, how am I doing so? MA?
(R)’s didn’t sell their votes.
Of course they came from (R) states because (D) govs would have finished the investigation or removed the AGs if the state const. allowed it. Saying it’s all the same/it’s always been this way is truly flawed you would have to ignore history to accomplish that something you seem so willing to do. Obama’s #s are circling the drain, Americans are rejecting his plans wholesale at the ballot box — that motherfucker couldn’t hold MA for the democrats, shit
Lock step to socialism is the reference to goosestepping. Going along for “party” is called message focus or ‘party focus’. Know the difference and both parties do it, except the goosestepping fits so well when coupling it with a government take over of 1/6 of the US economy; know the difference now? You suggest I’ve never been critical of republicans, how could you know? Every other state will have to pay for Nebraska’s carve out and it has not “always been like that”
u small racist UR LUCKY IM NOT A RACIST U COMUNIST!!!!!!! FYI IM A STRAIGH A STUDENT WHOS IN ALL ADVANCED CLASSES ND UR CALLING MEEE STUPID??????? ur lucky imnot one of those creepers who can locate where u live soo yeah
Alot of his figures are way off course. This is not the information in the real bill that they have not shown the copy to the public. Wonder who got him to do this video to try selling the public.
25 Comments »
March 10, 2010
RockyPoodleful :
willie is cute and amusing
Aphibee :
This was so informative, and since I naturally talk reallyreallyreally quick, it was much simpler for me to comprehend.
Thanks!
1080portal :
k, thxz 4 the info
nivekyaj :
There is a lot that your not saying, there are over 2000 pages to achieve insurance regulations and provide for the have nots. What else is there? how about federal access to personalbank accounts, RFID and committees to choose your care level and and and… tell all of it not only the things people want and like BUT also let’s talk about the stuff we DON’T want
beatlemania1234 :
Willy is ADORABLE.
kh739 :
Universal health care in the US is unconstitutional; that is why the state AGs are going after it. Dem AGs are ignoring out of politics. The “Cornhusker Kickback” is unconstitutional because it unfairly benefits one state over all others plus “carve outs” for other states. This would be the first “ins.” to be required by the feds and if it is enacted and you don’t pay: YOU GO TO PRISON.
Oh yeah, on a separate issue, medicare is bankrupt; adding a NEW entitlement program is foolish.
hadenufnow :
OPT OUT of blomacare…
NOBODY WANTS IT..
Its Poison…..
thecrimsonchin :
I really have no thought what point it is you’re making so, that politics hasn’t always been like this? That federal healthcare is socialist?
I don’t appreciate your attitude though, you deliver a backhanded
insult and ignore my response to it. I would still like to know how I’m ignoring history, apparently willfully according to you. We all need more education. I get that it’s supposed to make me look foolish, but I really can’t disagree. There really is no need to be so abrasive though.
thecrimsonchin :
@kh739
You know, I tried to be mannerly. Just because we have differing views doesn’t mean we can’t be civil. Re-read your message? and tell me you aren’t missing commas. Complex sentences usually have punctuation. As for not knowing what MA stands for, I’m not American. It could really stand for anything. I notice you still didn’t bother to clarify, it’s not my job to google your poor communication.
kh739 :
There’s nothing incorrect with my grammar. I know, I know. People often mistake complex sentence structure for run on sentences; you just need more education.
MA? You are kidding, right?
I don’t need to know democrat governors intimately to know their political motivations for not calling for an investigation into political issues that hurt their own parties, or as you said: “Trust politicians to be politicians. It’s regrettable, but that’s the way the world is. “
hadenufnow :
That dog is a DEM dog cuz he buys his own shyte…& don’t know why….
lifeinacndyswrl :
what kind of dog is willie? I want one!
Infow1433 :
i used to be against healthcare rationing but people do just make stupid health choices over and over and over and dont care. keep smokin keep drinkin beer keep eating pounds of dead animal a day but u might get rationed out where u wont receive an operation based on ur choices and age ect..
thecrimsonchin :
@kh739
I’m finding your message hard to know but I’ll try and answer as best I can. If you do choose to answer could you please cut down the abbreviations and run on sentences with no punctuation? I’m not making fun, I just can’t know some of your message. How many democratic governors do you know intimately? You’re making a huge assumption based on their political alignment there. I just don’t see your basis for that? With regard to ignoring history, how am I doing so? MA?
kh739 :
(R)’s didn’t sell their votes.
Of course they came from (R) states because (D) govs would have finished the investigation or removed the AGs if the state const. allowed it. Saying it’s all the same/it’s always been this way is truly flawed you would have to ignore history to accomplish that something you seem so willing to do. Obama’s #s are circling the drain, Americans are rejecting his plans wholesale at the ballot box — that motherfucker couldn’t hold MA for the democrats, shit
kh739 :
Lock step to socialism is the reference to goosestepping. Going along for “party” is called message focus or ‘party focus’. Know the difference and both parties do it, except the goosestepping fits so well when coupling it with a government take over of 1/6 of the US economy; know the difference now? You suggest I’ve never been critical of republicans, how could you know? Every other state will have to pay for Nebraska’s carve out and it has not “always been like that”
hadenufnow :
OPT OUT OF blomacare..
Its POISON.!!!
Nobody wants it…
bibliophile232 :
NO HEALTHCARE BILLS! democracy….ban socialism….go Objectivism…oh the humanity…
March 11, 2010
moldypeeches :
is that a unicorn in the background??
maooz :
Your spelling and punctuation justify my opinion.
wotevuh :
u small racist UR LUCKY IM NOT A RACIST U COMUNIST!!!!!!! FYI IM A STRAIGH A STUDENT WHOS IN ALL ADVANCED CLASSES ND UR CALLING MEEE STUPID??????? ur lucky imnot one of those creepers who can locate where u live soo yeah
maooz :
Americans are stupid. I’m so glad I’m not one.
ANGELBLU2042 :
Alot of his figures are way off course. This is not the information in the real bill that they have not shown the copy to the public. Wonder who got him to do this video to try selling the public.
scopapa33 :
maybe it would hep you get just ONE hair follicle active on your head!?
scopapa33 :
it also says my name is vince fontaine. do you even know who that is david raymer of apex, nc?