Produced by an emergency physician (Paul Hochfeld), “Health, Money and Dread” answers three questions about our broken health care non-system. Why does is cost so much? What does it say about us? What can we do about it? While Congress is more focused on the symptom, lack of Universal Coverage, they are ignoring the underlying problem. COST. Unless they address the perverse incentives that drive up cost, the “reform” we are going to get will be more government subsidies so the insurance industry can continue to thrive being central to a dysfunctional health care system that is better at producing profits than health. The elements of the solution must address the elements of the problem: technology, the dread of liability, mass marketing of prescription drugs, the profit motive, chaos in medical records, unrealistic expectatiions, and the multitude of insurance companies that add substantially to cost without contributing anything to health.
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thedrp21 - Look, it’s real simple, health care and education are not, and most importantly SHOULD NOT, be capitalistic endeavors. There’s a basic conflict of interest when you’re concerned about your bottom line while administering care or teaching children. A competition-driven approach to either health care or education is just backasswards thinking. Enough already! A blind adherence to “free market” mentality is damaging simply because it’s based on a myth. It’s an encouraging tale we tell.
That is really the ideological heart of this debate. Is it every man for himself, or all we all in this together? My Mother (the child of anarchist revolutionaries) taught me that “No Man is an island, entire of itself, each is part of the whole . . . any person’s death (or ill health) diminishes me, for I am involved in Humanity.”
“Ah, so now we get to the heart of the matter.” - No, really we don’t. There can be no greater liberty than the right to live. So using that as a starting point of reference, anything you have to say on the matter of liberty is absolutely mute. Go find a new argument, the one you have is dull/ridiculous/ranting/lunacy.
“You have taken your attack on liberty too far, i.e. health care, and the people are responding.” - But you are not responding are you, you are sat on youtube talking crap. The whole lot of you are completely impotent and worthless. Health reform will be made, not because of your opinion, but because it has to. Simple, you might as well climb back in your hole, nothing you say will make a difference in the same way the village doesn’t ever listen to it’s idiot.
“The problem is either you are ignorant, i.e. do not know how the system works and do not know political philosophy, or you want to control people simply for the power.” - Sadly not right. The problem is you didn’t spend long enough at school, stop blaming other people for that small fact.
The problem is either you are ignorant, i.e. do not know how the system works and do not know political philosophy, or you want to control people simply for the power. Those of us who like this country and what it stands for, no longer are willing to let you use the ignorance excuse. It is time for you to fire up the brain cells and examine some history. The statist approach has been shown to fail EVERY time it is tried, only individual freedom yields results.
Ah, so now we get to the heart of the matter. You folks, the communists/socialists/statists, do not like the fact that we have a system that is about the free market, personal responsibility and individual liberty (the only just and legitimate form of government). You have taken your attack on liberty too far, i.e. health care, and the people are responding. You statists had best reckon about the consequences of your actions; we will not stand for this.
thedrp21 - “Health care is absolutely not one of them, thus all the resistence.” Nonsense, the resistance being shown is simply using this reform as an opportunity to gripe. You can’t afford what you have, you never will be able to, it’s bankrupting your country so it’s not like you can even hold onto the system you have. There can be no greater liberty than the right to live, so before you start quoting liberty soundbites at everyone start thinking about that. Time to come out of the dark age.
Under a just and legitimate government there are very few things a group of people, no matter the size, may coerce individuals to comply with. Health care is absolutely not one of them, thus all the resistence. Our form of government is not based on majority rule, it is based on protection of the individual citizen’s liberty. Only a government abiding by this principle is just and legitimate. The huge question is how you, and others like you, reckon you have the right to tell others what to do.
Then take that free will of yours and suport it. It’s that simple. Do you not reckon that the people behind this really have free will too? You seem to reckon that the whole choice to sort this comes from only a few people. In reality, you are in the minority, you are just making the most pathetic amount of noise over it. You know you should really revisit your thoughts on this. You simply can’t have your existing system, you can’t afforf it. Time to start payingt your bills Mr.
“What is lost in the whole health care discussion is the fact that it is NOT anyone else’s responsibility to ensure YOUR health!” - The irony stinks so terrible for a country that claims to be founded on christian values. Where is the like thy neighbour now eh
I disagree.
“No man is an Island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the Continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were; any… man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee.”
John Donne, Meditation XVIRead More
What is lost in the whole health care discussion is the fact that it is NOT anyone else’s responsibility to ensure YOUR health! The whole concept of a RIGHT to health care is an absolute joke. Your health is your own business and you, as an individual, need to concern yourself only with YOUR health, not mine! It is unjust and illegitimate for any government to force someone to pay for somebody else’s health care and that is the bottom line on the whole health care discussion.
i’m appalled that people still don’t get it that the insurance industry has bought and paid for the government and the message. thank you for an brilliant and balanced look at the health care BUSINESS and how terrible it is for our country!
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March 11, 2010
gtrcello :
thedrp21 - Look, it’s real simple, health care and education are not, and most importantly SHOULD NOT, be capitalistic endeavors. There’s a basic conflict of interest when you’re concerned about your bottom line while administering care or teaching children. A competition-driven approach to either health care or education is just backasswards thinking. Enough already! A blind adherence to “free market” mentality is damaging simply because it’s based on a myth. It’s an encouraging tale we tell.
JDSackman :
That is really the ideological heart of this debate. Is it every man for himself, or all we all in this together? My Mother (the child of anarchist revolutionaries) taught me that “No Man is an island, entire of itself, each is part of the whole . . . any person’s death (or ill health) diminishes me, for I am involved in Humanity.”
TheSpankymonkey :
“Ah, so now we get to the heart of the matter.” - No, really we don’t. There can be no greater liberty than the right to live. So using that as a starting point of reference, anything you have to say on the matter of liberty is absolutely mute. Go find a new argument, the one you have is dull/ridiculous/ranting/lunacy.
TheSpankymonkey :
“You have taken your attack on liberty too far, i.e. health care, and the people are responding.” - But you are not responding are you, you are sat on youtube talking crap. The whole lot of you are completely impotent and worthless. Health reform will be made, not because of your opinion, but because it has to. Simple, you might as well climb back in your hole, nothing you say will make a difference in the same way the village doesn’t ever listen to it’s idiot.
TheSpankymonkey :
“The problem is either you are ignorant, i.e. do not know how the system works and do not know political philosophy, or you want to control people simply for the power.” - Sadly not right. The problem is you didn’t spend long enough at school, stop blaming other people for that small fact.
thedrp21 :
The problem is either you are ignorant, i.e. do not know how the system works and do not know political philosophy, or you want to control people simply for the power. Those of us who like this country and what it stands for, no longer are willing to let you use the ignorance excuse. It is time for you to fire up the brain cells and examine some history. The statist approach has been shown to fail EVERY time it is tried, only individual freedom yields results.
thedrp21 :
Ah, so now we get to the heart of the matter. You folks, the communists/socialists/statists, do not like the fact that we have a system that is about the free market, personal responsibility and individual liberty (the only just and legitimate form of government). You have taken your attack on liberty too far, i.e. health care, and the people are responding. You statists had best reckon about the consequences of your actions; we will not stand for this.
TheSpankymonkey :
thedrp21 - “Health care is absolutely not one of them, thus all the resistence.” Nonsense, the resistance being shown is simply using this reform as an opportunity to gripe. You can’t afford what you have, you never will be able to, it’s bankrupting your country so it’s not like you can even hold onto the system you have. There can be no greater liberty than the right to live, so before you start quoting liberty soundbites at everyone start thinking about that. Time to come out of the dark age.
thedrp21 :
Under a just and legitimate government there are very few things a group of people, no matter the size, may coerce individuals to comply with. Health care is absolutely not one of them, thus all the resistence. Our form of government is not based on majority rule, it is based on protection of the individual citizen’s liberty. Only a government abiding by this principle is just and legitimate. The huge question is how you, and others like you, reckon you have the right to tell others what to do.
TheSpankymonkey :
Then take that free will of yours and suport it. It’s that simple. Do you not reckon that the people behind this really have free will too? You seem to reckon that the whole choice to sort this comes from only a few people. In reality, you are in the minority, you are just making the most pathetic amount of noise over it. You know you should really revisit your thoughts on this. You simply can’t have your existing system, you can’t afforf it. Time to start payingt your bills Mr.
thedrp21 :
I look to like my neighbor based on my own free will, not because some government forces me to do so.
TheSpankymonkey :
“What is lost in the whole health care discussion is the fact that it is NOT anyone else’s responsibility to ensure YOUR health!” - The irony stinks so terrible for a country that claims to be founded on christian values. Where is the like thy neighbour now eh
JDSackman :
I disagree.
“No man is an Island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the Continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were; any… man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee.”
John Donne, Meditation XVIRead More
thedrp21 :
What is lost in the whole health care discussion is the fact that it is NOT anyone else’s responsibility to ensure YOUR health! The whole concept of a RIGHT to health care is an absolute joke. Your health is your own business and you, as an individual, need to concern yourself only with YOUR health, not mine! It is unjust and illegitimate for any government to force someone to pay for somebody else’s health care and that is the bottom line on the whole health care discussion.
mizonglohong :
I wish people would watch this!!!!! AND LISTEN!!!!! This is why I am fighting for health care!
Rixar13 :
No More Deny, Delay, Defend and Distract.
gymnasten123 :
As we has got here in sweden too.. very lucky
marytnurse :
i’m appalled that people still don’t get it that the insurance industry has bought and paid for the government and the message. thank you for an brilliant and balanced look at the health care BUSINESS and how terrible it is for our country!
March 12, 2010
alleykat1968 :
Brilliant Production, Thank You!!
willy1986tralara :
you are right man!
here in spain we´ve got a public health care system… lucky!